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Rick Turley is the former Director of Public Affairs for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and is today’s guest around the fireside. He joins Abbey and Madison to discuss how his love of wild spaces has shaped his life and work. The conversation begins with a look through Rick’s home landscapes and his time as a missionary in Japan then flows naturally into the advantages of living on the margins and interdisciplinary education. As well, Rick gives some historical grounding for his passion for Earth stewardship.